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		<title>Getting Into MS Live Should Not Be This Hard</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 17:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Scott Hendison</dc:creator>
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How hard should it be to get a site spidered and into Microsoft search index  for a site that&#8217;s over 3 years old, and has been in Google and Yahoo for years?
Even if they won&#8217;t follow my 301 redirect, don&#8217;t you think that submitting an XML site map at Microsoft&#8217;s Live Search Webmaster Tools [...]<p><a href="http://www.sempdx.org/blog/microsoft/getting-into-ms-live-should-not-be-this-hard/">Getting Into MS Live Should Not Be This Hard</a> is a post from: <a href="http://www.sempdx.org">SEMpdx</a></p>
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<p>How hard should it be to get a site spidered and into Microsoft search index  for a site that&#8217;s over 3 years old, and has been in Google and Yahoo for years?</p>
<p>Even if they won&#8217;t follow my 301 redirect, don&#8217;t you think that submitting an XML site map at <a href="http://webmaster.live.com/" target="_blank">Microsoft&#8217;s Live Search Webmaster Tools</a> would do the trick?</p>
<p>The problem is that there&#8217;s a 301 redirect from the main domain pointing to a subdirectory and admittedly, that&#8217;s not the best way a site should be set up, but <strong>that&#8217;s the way it was done, and Google, Yahoo, Ask, etc. seem to have no problem with it.</strong></p>
<p>Well the 301 doesn&#8217;t work, and submitting a sitemap won&#8217;t even show that it&#8217;s validated. Instead it just says &#8220;No Data Available&#8221;.</p>
<p style="text-align: center"><a href="http://www.sempdx.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/no-msn-crawl.jpg" target="_blank" title="no-msn-crawl.jpg"><img src="http://www.sempdx.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/no-msn-crawl.thumbnail.jpg" alt="no-msn-crawl.jpg" align="left" border="0" hspace="20" vspace="0" /></a></p>
<p><strong>A little history -</strong><br />
In November I posted that <a href="http://www.pdxtc.com/wpblog/seo/msn-live-bot-does-not-follow-301-redirects/" target="_blank">Microsoft Search is not following 301 redirects</a>, and now nearly a month later, the site in question is still not in their index despite my reasonable efforts. This is not a client domain, and not worth hours of my time, but I&#8217;ve done all that SHOULD be necessary, in my opinion.</p>
<p><strong>To recap what&#8217;s been done so far:</strong><br />
On the day I discovered the 301 problem, I placed the path to my XML site map in the robots.txt file, which is the  <a href="http://sitemaps.org/protocol.php#submit_robots" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">generally accepted method to tell engines where to look for the XML sitemap</a>.<br />
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(There are also some inbound links to deep pages on the site in question from other sites that are in the Microsoft index, in case anyone Is wondering.)</em></p>
<p>Then, a couple of weeks ago, guessing that maybe it wasn&#8217;t catching robots.txt either, I submitted the XML site map to Microsoft Webmaster center, and verified the site through the meta tag method. Still, their cache date is showing as November 22, and nothing&#8217;s in the index for that domain except the Apache 301 page.</p>
<p style="text-align: center"><a href="http://www.sempdx.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/301.jpg" target="_blank" title="301.jpg"><img src="http://www.sempdx.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/301.thumbnail.jpg" alt="301.jpg" align="left" border="0" hspace="20" vspace="0" /></a></p>
<p><strong>So, my question for Microsoft is&#8230; What the heck is going on?</strong><br />
Why should someone have to work this hard to get a site visited and indexed, and why can&#8217;t you fix it? Don&#8217;t you want us to care about your search engine?</p>
<p>I think the 301 problem, <strong>and how we should work around it,</strong> could and should be addressed on the <a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/webmaster/" target="_blank">Microsoft Live Search Webmaster Central Blog</a>.  Anyone disagree?<a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/webmaster/" target="_blank"><br />
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<p><a href="http://www.sempdx.org/blog/microsoft/getting-into-ms-live-should-not-be-this-hard/">Getting Into MS Live Should Not Be This Hard</a> is a post from: <a href="http://www.sempdx.org">SEMpdx</a></p>
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